There isn't much evidence to suggest that equivalence is meaningful for external load, so maybe stick to TRIMP and individual sport metrics.ĭon't forget session RPE (PPP: "If it feels hard, it is hard.") Liversedge wrote:and TRIMP when seeking equivalence across run, bike, swim. System doesn't have to be scientific, many scientists, Doctors, Professors, award winners are driven by market and gains. They will do that, because they have great faith in you Dan, will that really help them in anyway?
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We talk about skin suits giving 2-5W advantage, frames that save 4 watts, and the same people will use this point system to determine their workload.
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This point system could be used by pro triathlete doing swims in the same pool, cycling on the same trainer and running on the treadmill, but I would still be puzzled how to adjust for adaptations, you would need to flag that somehow. Lance Armstrong was totally not balanced. I very rarely see new people to triathlon that are balanced in abilities, I do not even know if I have seen one. I'm not even sure how to respond, because I'm sure you know how unrealistic this point system is (those days when we understand so much more about activities and physiology), and how much understanding of physiology and training one has to have to adjust it appropriately to make any sense\benefit out of itġ00km in Florida with 1m of total elevation gives 100 pointsġ00km in South of France with 6500m of elevation also gives 100 pointsġ0km run upwind uphill in -2C gives 40 pointsġ0km run downhill downwind at 23C gives the same 40 pointsĢ000m open water swim with heavy current gives 20pointsĢ000m in the pool swim gives the same 20 pointsġ00km on Cervelo superbike gives 100pointsġ00km on WallMart steel commuter gives 100pointsĥ0km in Giro Aerohead helmet gives 50points If you find it much harder to perform X points in one sport versus another I suggest then you have a deficiency in that sport.įirst I love your forum and have a great deal of respect. It assumes you're balanced in your abilities. While not particularly scientific I think it's still not bad (with numerous caveats). It's designed to give those naive to the sport some sense of scale and equivalency. I developed it mostly for those new to triathlon. This point system is more than 25 years old. Maybe Dan will chime in on his original intents. I highly doubt there is any peer-reviewed research to back up his numbers. My take is Dan is trying to help determine if your workouts over a period of time (week, month) are "balanced" by trying to normalize the effort associated with various workouts. I vaguely remember reading it when Dan posted it. Wow, that article is almost 10 years old. At least in that case, though, Jack Daniels has a doctorate in exercise physiology as well as a long-standing reputation as a coach.) (BTW, note that there is just as little/much basis for Daniel's points system, which has been in GoldenCheetah for almost 10 y. This means we are able to provide the best analysis available" Science that has been developed with the academic rigour demanded by the scientific method evidence based, peer-reviewed and original. Wherever possible we choose to use published science. How this could help in training? 50 points in January would be totally different from 50 points in June.Īre you saying that you don't believe these statements? This hocus pocus could not even work semi precisely for one individual, since it doesn't take any correction for physiological adaptations gained in each discipline.
How can we say the points we collect during run and swim are the same, totally makes no sense.
You are excellent swimmer and very good runner. I have never run in my life and never swam, only biked.
Imagine this: I'm beginner athlete and you are great athlete. Why 1 point for 100m swimming, not 1.05 for 100m or 1 point for 50m swimming?
gchart file creates this chart on GC.Īre those points based on what reasearch? One single individual physiology or average of many people? This is similar to calculating max HR based on 220-Age, and probably max HR is more precise and closer to reality. The script can be hidden and there is no need to type it, drag&drop of the attached. Ale Martinez wrote:Other new feature that can be used in this case is the R integration, for example to see distribution by sport for the selected Date Range/Season as a pie chart:
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